Production and performance have replaced biblical exegesis and fellowship. We had to deal with it. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! The man does not make the ministry., God [emailprotected]. You are Julie. And we got to a Saturday meeting then on the ninth. I stepped into a conference room. If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. And that reminded me of something that Dan Marquardt told me. And by the meeting that night, the executive committee came to the elder board with a unanimous recommendation, per the bylaws, that James McDonalds employment should be terminated for cause at that point. His sermons changed from adoration of the text to little postcard messages. Wow! In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. I stepped away from my computer a couple of times. I mean just absolutely devastating stories and, and feeling the pain. I remember that too. And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. I remember saying we got to pray. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. I knew letters were coming to the elder board per First Timothy 5. And this is when everything really started happening. Its impossible to take evangelicals seriously. Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. Yeah Cynthia. And I checked my voicemail. And I, the next day, I wrote and said, Well, okay, I respect your wishes. I did not. Good to be here. I certainly am no Bible scholar. And I know its cost you personally. The leaders in our church spoke like KJ era British people when they prayed, I always wondered why. We STILL confuse sex and gender, which leads to conflating a lot of issues when discussing this. Dominican Republic, a resort there and invited their wives to come with them. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. It was a battle in the natural but more than that, there was a spiritual battle going on then, and I think its still going on now. Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. They should go to the reconciliation team. And if I can give you a context, where I was in my thought process, in that. Ministry News. And so what Id like to do is just rewind a couple of years to fall 2018. Well, because Scripture says you do it in front of everybody. And he opened the meeting, looking at me and said, I know what youre going to do, and the church is going to implode or blow up, and its going to be on you. TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. I totally get the emotion that you must have felt because I felt it, too. However, MacDonald texted me an invitation to appear with him in a public forum to answer for the many many lies Ive reportedly written about him. You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. The Asbury Revival Is Over. I think, how is it that we had the word of God sitting in front of us, which is pretty clear about what to do. I mean his letter, not just talking about the abusive behavior of James, but the things he did with the money going on African safaris with the church money. If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. Search my early tweet history. There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. So I had a pretty good sense of what the meeting was gonna be from that point on. None of my sources said it was wrong. Instead of focusing on who is stronger and who is weaker, why dont we focus on how both of us can be strong for the kingdom and live out the calling that God has given to each of us individually and as a couple?, Visconti also posted recently on his Instagram story that abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And so I felt relief. Were just talking a minute ago, you know, the emotion and the weight and the relief and the sadness, and all those things are true. . She was a late comer to those of us who had been exposing MacD for a long time. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. Just look at King David . Lets try little role reversal here. There were six people who were brave enough, vulnerable enough to write letters. So if you cant say anything, I mean, again, hes dismissive of the actual letters. And I know I totally get what youre talking about. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. So walk us through the drama of that weekend, James McDonald trying to save his job. No One Knows. You can unconditionally love someone. Pastor James will provide answers in upcoming featured video posts. They said no, for various reasons. . I had, of course, people from Harvest who had heard it, sending me sending me clips. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. Jesus died on the cross for to take the weight of our sin so that we could be released from it. No one takes joy in doing this. It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. I wish I didnt. On February 13, the elders announced James MacDonald had been fired . And I have, you know, probably probably six weeks later, less than, probably four weeks later or something I I apologized for signing that. How come church leaders and male congregants are always beating up the women with this particular Scripture but no one ever (to my knowledge) addresses the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church? . Im Julie Roys. Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. On Thursday, the seventh, I got a text from one of the elders who said, Call me if you can before such and such a time. I talked to other people who told me of demands that he made for private jets on numerous occasions. Great! So its critically important that the truth be told. And, and the drama begins. Can you say what was in that letter? . It was a Wednesday or Thursday night on the Rolling Meadows campus. MacDonald adds, Of the more than 4000 Change Partners once faithfully supporting our efforts monthly, there are now about 150the remnant from which we seek to rebuild. He then invites people to send him gifts. Longtime leader of the Chicago-area megachurch Harvest Bible Chapel James MacDonald has been ousted as senior pastor in light of unsavory remarks he made on a hot mic that were aired on local media Tuesday. And when I read that, I just shook my head. You know, Ive been here the whole time. So thats, thats February 5, 2019. I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. And I want to help people lead the church well. Instead, he blocked our access to his and Generation Churchs social media accounts. For more information just go to Judsonu.edu/visit. But its also an important podcast, because as you may know, James McDonald is aggressively trying to rewrite history and relaunch his ministry. Am I characterizing what happened there accurately? I asked Sandy Song to potentially write a letter. Very loyal to James McDonald. Then let me just ask you from the start, why are you doing this? On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? So that tells you something about the backbone and the integrity of Dan Marquardt. And you got all of them. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet., We are meant to set aside power and authority and serve one another (Matthew 20:25-28) as we are partnered together (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12), Gregoire added. Great! You can imagine it wasnt it wasnt long before the elders were, you know, talking and I dont remember the timing exactly. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. You cant unconditionally support anybody. So lets move on to these letters. What do you give, he would have been removed from Harvest, theres no doubt. There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. She wanted me to look at it. 2. Guard your heart and keep it diligentlyfor from it flows the content of your life. Is that how it went down? The only joy in doing this is we would be obeying Gods word. And I got it. I remember talking and saying, guys, were all going to give an account to the Lord one day for what were doing in this meeting. However, you did sign a letter of unconditional support. I just thought, yeah. And you couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger public. No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. And again, this was on the churchs dime. But some of these people, for 10 years or more, had been maligned. And I got the text. June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. Ive listened to the entire recording. I did hear from one after I reached out to him because we had another connection with another organization that hes a head of. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. It was a heated discussion about letters and who should have the letters who should read the letters, etc., that night. But for us not to act would be unbelief. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. Its so interesting. We knew what we knew what we were going to do. And it was just a deep sadness, deep sadness. In the area (a south metro suburb of Minneapolis, MN ), that's just the average cost of a house. I followed up with this text but Julie did not respond immediately to my request for a comment. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. In this episode of The Roys Report, former Harvest elder, Dan George, joins Julie to tell the real story of MacDonalds firing. 2011 NIV. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. I remember going home, my wife picked me up, I went home, and I just laid on the couch and looked at her. Thanks that is hilarious!! Christians should stop feeding these people. It was a large elder board. He is not a pastor. Understandable. But he starts arguing process. It wasnt an argument. Is that an accurate representation? And then if you could, please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. This is James said what he said. But as, as these excerpts of James speaking as, as James did, to so many people knew that, that this was the way he really, really spoke and who he really was. The senior pastor at my church moved into town in 2014, and bought a home in proximity to the church for $260,000. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. Hi. Ron Duitsman, Chairman of the Board, who agreed to fire James, now appears to be out there, saying that after James got fired, that the elders were were spinning what happened in a false way. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. And I was just, it was entertaining, you know, on one level, but on the other level, just absolutely tragic. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. And eventually, and I know you send them with a lot of safeguards, so they couldnt be forwarded. So what happened? Jennifer I just knew the Lord made it clear I had to do it. We had a group of Pastors who interviewed him and he gave us free tickets to his Straight Up conference. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. So Im deeply grateful for their faithful support. And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. There was a spirited discussion of the letters and who should be able to read the letters. 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