Reed (another type A variety) was a late season flowerer. GEM. Having grown up in San Diego and having a father who loved Avocados, I was never without. Also, avocado flowers are primarily pollinated by bees, and bees readily fly between trees that are 50 feet apart. What do you think, is it overkill to have two Hass trees? I found one at a small nursery in south county and planted it in between the 2 existing trees. Great read! Kona Sharwil avocado was introduced in Australia and is now a major commercial variety in Hawaii. Greg suggested me the Viveros Brokaw. Marin, known for cultivating new crops, also grew Isabella grapesthen sold the resulting wine to sea captains, off what is now Vineyard Avenue in Honolulu. The fruit is the 'Hass' type, with a pebbly green skin that ripens off the tree to nearly black. Vasco, thank you for your kind message. Theyre hard to find these days. I was trying to think of any varieties that cant be kept to 10-12 feet tall, but Im at a loss. But keep this in mind: each of these three varieties is capable of producing a hundred avocados on a tree thats less than 15-feet tall even if its not close to an opposite-type tree. Screw the big/medium locals, I am going to Fallbrook from now own to get my avo trees straight from the growers. My twist is I want to keep them to 10 12 ft high. Good problems. Should we take all the trees out and start new? I would go with the clonal rootstocks if you can, but I would get one tree on Dusa and the other on Duke 7. I didnt protect my Reed with shade cloth when I first planted it, and my paint protection was not enough to prevent the top being seriously burned so I lost about 18-24 inches on the top. You might find this answer boring, in which case Id be willing to bet that you dont already have a Hass tree in your yard. If your Reed is on Dusa and its doing well so far, then I would get those other trees on Dusa too. June of 2018 Which basically means it may be grafted on just anything. Sharwil Avocados from Hawaii. Great article, and I agree with your choices of Hass, Reed, and Fuerte, but only if you live in a true mild avocado climate. Both ornamental and fruit trees are being affected, Its only about 8 miles to the Tijuana River valley from here which Im told is having a serious problem with shot hole borers, hope Im wrong but that may be the problem. Youve spurred me to finally post on some portion of the topic at least. Hi Greg. Thanks, Keith. Lambs do get rich, for sure. If I had the space for two avocado trees, I would plant a Hass and a Reed. Going back to Atkins to get a Sharwil to pair with my Reed. So, right now, at the churchs garden we already have a beautiful avocado collection Hass, Lamb, Bacon and Reed. Do you have any neighbors with avocado trees in their yard? Hi Greg, For those who have a large yard, Martin. Would you recommend Carmen Hass and GEM? Nice work! They have been so helpful for me starting my garden. Do remember how heavy the fruit is, and that it will cause branches to bend down significantly. Hass does really well in cool climates. Lots of great Hass are grown in nearby Morro Bay. And one concern would be pairing a vigorous upright variety with a slow spreading variety. I have to plant them in a line of north to south. By 1991, Sharwil was finally cleared for export and shipments were. Should complement the GEM season. The foliage just doesnt look very pretty close up. For more information visit the NZ Avocado Industry Ltd website or phone 0800 AVOCADO / 0800 286 2236. They call it Standard or 4 mulch. Choquette Avocados. I am jealous you are growing all those Hawaiian varieties and am interested in what you have to say about taste once that time comes and how the trees are doing. One of his favorites was the Nabal. 100% Hawaiian Sharwil Avocados. So I decided to plant a Hass and a Sir Prize which sounded like a great variety. You saved my sanity! Im considering a 6 X 10 planting. Maybe that would work. When I walk around my neighborhood here in Sylmar, Its amazing how most people abuse their avocado trees by having their gardeners rake up those leaves as soon as they hit the ground. But I have to emphasize that this is just secondhand information. has a high oil content and is larger than the hass variety. As good as some other avocados are, nothing pleases me quite as much as eating a high quality Fuerte. Yulia. Our Avocado Varieties. Yet the tree is smaller in that it is an upright instead of a large spreading type, the fruit are small but turn black when ripe (about the size of tiny hass found 8 in a bag), and the tree is a heavy producer (at least it was this time). The Nabal is really dropping a lot of yellowing leaves daily and making me nervous about over or under watering or something else I might be causing. If its fresh and thick, youll soon notice a lot of fungal growth (hyphae white webby stuff) if you poke inside, but thats never had bad consequences as far as Ive observed. have a question about sizing when purchasing. It's the plant hormone ethylene, which occurs . One, get only the hardier varieties, such as Fuerte, Bacon, Zutano, or Puebla. As for heat-tolerant avocado varieties, I wrote a post about that some years back and Ill be updating it soon: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/heat-tolerance-of-avocado-varieties/. Today, the 'Hass' accounts for about 80 percent of all avocados consumed in the entire world. Anyway, usually its for the best that trees shed some of their fruitlets. I saw such a video recently displaying some trees in the front yard of friends of mine down here in San Diego County and it made me very angry. BTW Thank you for the great info youve published. My question is how do you recommend getting rid of the persea mite? Others have noted this since the early days growing Gwen, and I have also noticed it in my tree. Cliff. My second choice would be Hass and Fuerte. And the sharwil does not have the nutty notes like the hass. Your email address will not be published. Both can crop well as solo trees, and they have different harvest seasons, and they both are extremely high-quality in terms of eating. Thanks for all the resources. Perhaps if youre willing to protect your tree during occasional cold spells in winter, especially during the first couple winters, youll have success. These are varieties that take a long time to get big enough to be useful as shade trees compared to other varieties. This cultivar is responsible for almost 60 percent of commercial avocado acreage in Hawaii. GEM could do well for you, as could just about any other variety. Thanks for your feedback. The Pinkerton tree itself gets a bit sunburned and tattered looking but it holds onto its fruit very well, which Id say is what we most care about. Then you can add a third one strictly based a flavor. Hass has done very well on Duke 7 for decades in many locations. Most of the other retail nurseries buy from the same wholesale growers (La Verne and Durling). i was thinking that maybe a gwen to help the sir prize and reed for stewart seems to be the right pairing, or should i think about redoing my variety selection? Greg Another which 2 trees are best question. The problem with Fuerte is that it tends to grow horizontally so youd have to be vigilant about training it up a stake and pruning as necessary. Spraying the underside of leaves with a forceful stream of water can reduce mite presence on a few small trees where this is feasible.. I think this one can make a come back. Ive never heard of anyone who is unsatisfied by Gwens eating qualities, and there arent many avocado varieties that achieve such distinction. So, in a sense, you dont want to disturb them. Being in Montecito, its likely that your Hass will set very well without a pollenizer. The skin also gets some brown russetting. I have a space there where its convenient for them to dump. I live on the southern hemisphere so can you please take this into account. Will do. Do you need two avocado trees to get fruit? And I started reading about rootstocks. The problem is that theres so much to say. June of this year I topped them at 8 feet, The Gem is still at 8 feet but the other two want to grow to the moon. Hass is the most widely planted variety in the world for good reason. Hass, Avocado Reed. Once budwood is available without using the mother tree I will share more on the Lamorinda. I really, really appreciate this article. It is an effective way to manage closely planted trees. Theyre similar to Reed in both taste and appearance (round and green skin), except that the Nabals I know have a thicker, shell-like skin. Four different varieties which were doing very well. by Greg Alder | Mar 23, 2018 | Avocados | 167 comments. We got a Hass today, and were planning to plant it tomorrow in the sunniest spot in our yard, which usually stays pretty warm, even when its chilly. I have many thoughts on this topic, but dont have the experience so I am curious to get your thoughts on this! for avocados. Based on other research, Id been drawn to trying a GEM avocado tree here in NoCal on the coast (near Ft. Bragg and Mendocino). No one even the owner knows what variety it is, but there is a lot of fruits on it. But where to find this information otherwise? Oh yes, I found an avocado tree in Nice!!!!!!!!!!! I am curious what your recommendation and thoughts are for year around great tasting avocados from my backyard in Tustin. Im going to find the least cold spots on and plant the less cold hardy avocados there. Terrific! If you want it to spread very horizontally, Id plant a Fuerte. Give your avocado tree about 15 feet of space from other trees and plants. But I will say that it is definitely precocious in my yard. Many thanks in advance for your help and advice! Greg, what rootstocks would you recommend for GEM, Lamb and Bacon? I have a friend down here in Southern California who also is very happy with his Zutano tree. The variety has been grown in Southern California for about a hundred years, having been brought up from Guatemala by Wilson Popenoe. Thank you, Elizabeth. Are they light producing or is that they are slow growing therefore they are light producing because they are small? Is that too far away? Forgive my rambling. Griswold in a 1945 article titled, The Hass Avocado. This was written when the green Fuerte was king of a young California avocado industry. My guess is that you can grow just about any variety that does well in Southern California since your greenhouse probably stays warm enough in spring to make B-type varieties set fruit well. I realize it cant live forever there but at least I will get to try the fruit someday. I was originally thinking of two avocado trees to go along with the Meyer Lemon and Black Mission Fig, but this post is making me think it should be three. More than half the fat in avocados is the healthy monounsaturated fat (the type in olive oil) and saturated fat is minimal. americana) Hi, i was gifted a Nabal Avocado tree for xmas and before i plant it in the ground, i was wondering what its growing habits are? We had problems with root rot our persimmontree died of root rot). I visited a grove with a soil pH of 8 and saw that their GEM trees on Dusa were stunted and chlorotic. The grove manager said he prefers Hass at no closer than 12 feet. The fruit is set in huge numbers uniformly throughout the tree. We live in Carlsbad, CA, which I believe is sunset zone 24. Your area is definitely on the cool side, but actually not too much cooler than ideal for avocados in terms of high temperatures. Do you have any recommendations for which trees/rootstock combinations have the best chance of survival out here? I am looking for a variety that would : I have two questions, if I may The same occurred with my newly planted atemoya: the leaves turned black, and the tree dried to death. Ive never tasted one but wondering how it compares to Reed and Hass in your opinion. Florida's avocado trees grow to be between 30 and 65 feet tall. Funny thing is that Hass was once an outsider. Who knows? Hi Greg, thank you for your posts. You ought to add either Lamb or Reed for avocados to be eaten in summer into fall, yes; your grafting idea there is a good one. Guacamole heaven! Sharwil avocados have a dense, nutty flavor and a high oil content. But thats actually not why Id choose it to grow as my only tree. However, if youd like a B type to complement Hass for pollination and season extension then Id go with Fuerte, Sharwil, or Nabal. If the tree turns out to be a winner in your yard too, then eventually we can all benefit from the discovery. If you only eat half, that's 1.3 grams of net carbs. For anyone counting net carbs, avocados are simply amazing. That being said, I have eaten excellent Sharwils from the De Luz area as late as October. Looks like my own graft will take. First, there is no best rootstock. Ive got a small Reed already picked out, since I really love the flavor. Two months ago my Nabal (in SoCal) was also developing a lot of yellow leaves with brown veins, and falling off. Notify me via e-mail if anyone answers my comment. Thanks for everything. (Alternatively, if I had a neighbor with a Hass or a vendor at a farmers market who sold good Hass, then I could plant a Reed as my only tree.). Ive watched some young trees in your area get zapped by cold every couple years recently. And I also hope for mild heat this summer! The answer depends on a few things. I couldnt send the photos here. Thank you so much. They have smooth, glossy skins and high water content. I have a hilly area for my trees and its not practical for ladders, so Im looking to plant avocado trees that are easier to pick, great tasting, high yielding and can hang for some time on the tree (ideally). document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); I'm Greg. Lots of them are dropping everyday, but plenty growing. Its very disrespectful when people put such videos on YouTube or otherwise share such information online. Option 1: Reed. Thank you so much for the great articles, and for your personal attention and replies. Hardiness: Average to 28F. Thanks for writing. Thanks for the kind words. Great article Greg! The correct spelling is "Hass." 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